2024‐05‐03

DRAFT Meeting minutes May 3rd, 2024

Attending (11): Michael Gower, Alastair Campbell, Bruce Bailey, Francis Storr, Giacomo Petri, Avon Kou

Gundula Neiman, Duff Johnson, Dan Bjorge, Scott O'Hara, Theo Hale, Lori Oakley, Filippo Zorzi.

Regrets: , Patrick Lauke

Discussion

We've resolved about 100 issues, but net count is about the same. Patrick made the good suggestion that we might what to shift to a PR focus. Focus on done versus what is left to do.

Reflow

More comments in latest draft, no other discussion.

Standing Agenda

1. Review ‘For discussion’ items
2. Review ‘Drafted’ items (30 min), either:
   1. move back to In progress, with more work to do
   2. move to Ready for approval, if there is general agreement the issue is sufficiently resolved
   3. leave in Drafted, if discussion was not concluded satisfactorily
3. Review issues closed and project items closed.
4. Review ‘To do’.
5. Time permitting, items of interest to participants, including open discussions.

Review ‘For discussion’ items

Technique G183: expand example 2 to actually illustrate the technique's point #2244 3.3.1 it is a bit circular icons (e.g. caution sign) with alt count as "text". TF members, please take a look.

Review ‘Drafted’ items (30 min), either:

Tweak understanding for 1.2.3 and 1.2.5 #1790 Address a gap that current Understanding does include audio ducking, even though that is not uncommon. There is an accessibility gap when if narration is added only during pauses (in dialog) is not sufficient for the visual information being conveyed. TF consensus was for splitting into one or more additional techniques. Need to check if issue is open on lack of gaps (in dialog) being a failure (or not).

move back to In progress, with more work to do

move to Ready for approval, if there is general agreement the issue is sufficiently resolved

leave in Drafted, if discussion was not concluded satisfactorily

Review issues closed and project items closed.

Review ‘To do’.

Time permitting, items of interest to participants, including open discussions.

item 1

• Old: We have a dozen items for approval by AG, due 4/29. Going forward, we may want to have fewer than that.

item 2

• Old: The project board, and our calls, are oriented to Pull Requests.

Review ‘Drafted’ items

Ready for WG approval

• old Change markers: add visual style and remove unnecessary text semantics #1481 is just a change to style sheet, and will be bundled with other erratum. Moved to Ready for approval.

• old Rewrite for 3.3.1 Error Identification understanding document #1651 has four thumbs up, but is long discussion thread. TF members are asked to take a look and thumbs up if you can in good conscience. Use of the word "must" might be problematic. Moved to Ready for approval with four thumbs up.

• old Add sufficient technique for 2.4.7 using :focus-visible #3272 Alastair noted that, since it is new, we need to double check the numbering (used for the filename). At present, there are 43. See Listing of all CCS techniques and techniques/css file listing in the repo.

Left in Drafted

• old Expand 1.4.10 Reflow note about 200% and breakpoints, add matching note to 1.4.4 Resize Text #2630 discussed very briefly. TF members asked to take a look and thumbs up or comment.

To Do

• old Update video-only 1.2.1 Understanding document #3802 looking for a volunteer. Looks like it could be straightforward.

• old Focus not obscured (minimum) and scrolling content into view #3801 discussed. Scott is working on this one and looking for feedback from group. SC is dependent upon behavior of keyboard focus. Keyboard focus going behind pop-up can be reveled by scrolling, but that is what the SC is trying to address.