Real time communication improvements #1147

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 github="https://github.com/signalapp"
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Mikaela · 2019-08-12T10:35:18Z

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+    <li><a href="https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/1013.pdf">A Formal Security Analysis of the Signal Messaging Protocol (2019)</a> by Katriel Cohn-Gordon, Cas Cremers, Benjamin Dowling, Luke Garratt and Douglas Stebila</li>
+    <li><a href="https://wire.com/en/security/#audits">Indepedent security audits</a> on Wire's website</li>
+    <li><a href="https://keybase.io/docs-assets/blog/NCC_Group_Keybase_KB2018_Public_Report_2019-02-27_v1.3.pdf">Keybase's Protocol Security Review (2019)</a> by <a href="https://www.nccgroup.trust/">NCC Group</a></li>
+  </ul>


This is the same order we list them in on the page.

_includes/sections/voice-video-messenger.html

Mikaela · 2019-08-12T10:37:58Z

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+{% include cardv2.html
+title="Mumble"


I suggested it in #1137 and thus had to remove encrypted from the title. @nitrohorse OKed it, but I understand if you wish to remove it.

I think Mumble may be more beginner friendly than Linphone and currently the only other suggestion is Jitsi Meet, which requires WebRTC that many are going to have disabled thanks to the Firefox tweaks.

Mikaela · 2019-08-12T10:38:17Z

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+title="Mumble"
+image="/assets/img/tools/Mumble.png"
+website="https://mumble.info/"
+description="Mumble is an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming. <span class=\"badge badge-warning\" data-toggle=\"tooltip\" title=\"\">Warning</span> While Mumble doesn't log messages or record by default, <a href=\"https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/1813\">it's missing end-to-end encryption</a>, so self-hosting is recommended."


See also the related information section

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Mikaela · 2019-08-12T10:40:11Z

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+  <li>More information about Mumble:</li>
+  <ul>
+  <li><a href="https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Running_Murmur">Running Mumble Server</a> and <a href="https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Murmur.ini">its config file</a>, particularly <a href="https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Murmur.ini#obfuscate">obfuscating IPv4 addresses</a> and <a href="https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Murmur.ini#Process_Administrivia">logging</a></li>
+  <li><a href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/Mumble">Torifying Mumble</a>


I think this may make Mumble more privacy friendly than Jitsi Meet, presuming logging is disabled. Tor Browser disables WebRTC, doesn't it?

Yeah, just validated myself and it's disabled in about:config.

Mikaela · 2019-08-12T10:40:50Z

source_code.md

@@ -136,26 +136,24 @@ Backend: closed-source

 Ricochet: https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet

+ Tox: https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore
+
+ Ring/Jami: https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux


I corrected the source code location for Jami. Otherwise I just moved things around.

Mikaela · 2019-08-12T11:23:31Z

Would there be any point in listing Signal desktop separately and saying that it needs to be linked to Signal mobile?

jonaharagon

Made some changes at https://github.com/Mikaela/privacytools.io/pull/1 I'd like to see included, otherwise LGTM.

I also can't decide if we should include a Supports VoIP badge on the Instant Messengers that support VoIP, because we removed them from the Voice section. I just want it to be clear that Signal/Wire also support Voice. But maybe the warning listed is enough. I'm very on the fence about it. If we do want to add a badge like that though, I need the cardv2.html changes I made in #1148 to be merged first.

nitrohorse · 2019-08-13T06:09:01Z

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  <li><a href="https://keybase.io/">Keybase</a> - <span class="badge badge-warning" data-toggle="tooltip" title="This software relies on a closed-source central server.">Warning</span> End-to-end encrypted messaging with social verification.</li>
  <li><a href="https://status.im/">Status</a> - <span class="badge badge-warning">Experimental</span> A free and open-source, peer-to-peer, encrypted instant messanger with support for DAPPs.</li>
  <li><a href="https://ricochet.im/">Ricochet</a> - <span class="badge badge-danger" data-toggle="tooltip" title="This software is safe if you manually keep Tor up to date."><a href="#ricochetTor" class="text-white">Danger</a></span> <span class="badge badge-warning" data-toggle="tooltip" title="This software is considered safe but experimental and the client has not been updated since 2016."><a href="https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet#experimental">Experimental</a></span> Ricochet uses the <a href="/browsers/#browser"><i class="fas fa-link"></i> Tor network</a> to reach your contacts without relying on messaging servers. It creates a hidden service, which is used to rendezvous with your contacts without revealing your location or IP address.</li>
+  <li> <a href="https://tox.chat/">Tox</a> - <span class="badge badge-warning">Experimental</span> A free and open-source, peer-to-peer, encrypted instant messaging and video calling software. </li>
+  <li><a href="https://jami.net/">Jami (formerly Ring/SFLphone)</a> - Gives you a full control over your communications and an unmatched level of privacy. Jami has <em>text messaging, video and audio calls, file transfer, video conferencing</em>.</li>


Minor suggestion; remove "a": Gives you full control...

nitrohorse · 2019-08-13T06:16:53Z

I also can't decide if we should include a Supports VoIP badge on the Instant Messengers that support VoIP, because we removed them from the Voice section. I just want it to be clear that Signal/Wire also support Voice. But maybe the warning listed is enough. I'm very on the fence about it.

Looking it over I think adding a badge would be a good idea. The callout in the warning alert is kind of easy to miss.

Otherwise, LGTM too!

nitrohorse

LGTM once comments are resolved 👍

Mikaela · 2019-08-13T08:20:03Z

So I just need to warn about WebRTC and Minor suggestion; remove "a": Gives you full control...?

Do I need to somehow add the supports VoIP label or will @jonaharagon do that later?

Mikaela · 2019-08-13T11:34:17Z

@jonaharagon @nitrohorse How about this?

Mikaela · 2019-08-13T11:35:55Z

I am going to cancel that last commit though as I think it looks better with the space.

The labels/badges functionality added to cardv2.html in cbe5de4 work better here.

jonaharagon

K last change: Since #1148 was merged the changes I pushed to Mikaela#2 make more sense for the VoIP and other badges.

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👍🏼

voice-video-messenger: remove duplicates with instant-messenger

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also move Tox and Jami to Instant Messengers, Change Jitsi to Jitsi Meet

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instant-messenger: remove platforms of Signal Desktop

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https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/967#issuecomment-520268788

instant-messenger: add indepedent security audits

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voice-video-messenger: mention that many are already listed above

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instant-messenger: fix formatting & mention features of Jami

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voice-video-messenger: list Mumble

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update source_code.md

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voice-video-messenger: fix card

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The labels/badges functionality added to cardv2.html in cbe5de4 work better here.

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