Removes TWitch from normal rounds, and blacklists key chems from stra #4626
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| /datum/reagent/impedrezene = 5, | ||
| /datum/reagent/bluespace = 10, | ||
| /datum/reagent/consumable/liquidelectricity = 2, | ||
| /datum/reagent/medicine/adminordrazine = 30, |
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I suggest making it need lavaland reagents instead, that or making it be a secret recipe like metalgen, currently this is a waste of adminordrazine as its still a better chem
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I contemplated on this, but decided not to. Having full projectile immunity is extremely busted, and it's not suppose to be made anyways, which is why it uses adminordrazine.
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| ///Blacklist for strange seeds, because botany is already as strong as it is. | |||
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this should be in a modular folder
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I'll move it when I get home then.
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there is already a way to remove chems from strange seeds, remove the REAGENT_CAN_BE_SYNTHESIZED flag from the chem, you don't need to make it admin only, there are a few ways to make something exclusive instead of removing it entirely but adminbus rounds. I'm not a maintainer but i don't see with good eyes hasty uncreative attempts of nerfs I also think muscle stimulants should not be blacklisted |
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Personally I don't really have a huge problem with TWitch, and I can think of a few better ways to nerf it than just... essentially outright removing it? But my main issue here is the fact this also removes a few miscellaneous chems from strange seeds, without really justifying it or mentioning it (save for offhandedly in the changelog). |
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why not just make it... be like a 50% chance or somethin to ignore projectiles? |
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I think a few comments have already pointed out the problems with this change, and coming from a mentor perspective here, the outright removal of not just the TWitch chem, but others who have yet to been justified is midly concerning and comes in a reactive manner, which is probably not a good way to deal with the problems this chemical is causing. Some of the most concerning non-explained removals are of
These are either helpful for the station, security or provide antags with more opportunities to engage with the enviroment, at the cost of having to carefuly select strange seeds, have a good enough nutriment production and an well upgraded biogen to even achieve this. Furthermore, the removal of meth on strange seeds, but not on omega weed is a confusing subject to me, since from what i've often shown to players, the carefully managing of strange seeds and mixing of chemicals and traits can take far more work than the mutation of weed into omega weed. I cannot understand why these are on a PR about the removal of TWitch other than that they interact well with the chem. I strongly recommend an nerf to the chemical TWitch or its limitation to lavaland only enviroments, or, if as stated by Raf, an blacklisting of the chemical, as it has seen to be possible on #2342. I again, from a mentor perspective, strongly suggest a review of the balance of the chemical itself and not the game mechanics of other unrelated chemicals and their interaction with botany, at least on this PR. |
…Monkestation#4626) * Removes TWitch from normal rounds, and blacklists key chems from strange seeds. * grammer skill issue * Adding more to the blacklist, removed pen from imports. * The blacklist didnt work, removing
About The Pull Request
As the story implies, nerfs strange seeds by adding a blacklist for certain chemicals. And makes TWitch an admin only chemical.
Why It's Good For The Game
I dont think i need to explain how meth speed + projectile immunity is inherently unhealthy, especially with little downsides and easy (with some smarts) access. Also, we dont need botany to grow adminordrazine banana's. They're already strong as is. This doesnt remove it, nor the autoinjector form the game, but makes it admin only.
Changelog
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balance: Blacklisted spesific antag and admin reagents from strange seeds.
balance: Changed the recipe for TWitch, making it effectivly impossible to get. If you somehow make it, you earned it.
del: Removed the TWitch injector from a hacked ordering computer.
admin: Added a warning to the TWitch autoinjector OPFOR item.
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