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Achieve contribution workflow perfection (with progress) [LUCENE-10543] #11579
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Robert Muir (@rmuir) (migrated from JIRA) another idea is to use github wiki functionality vs the confluence we have today. The confluence is so out of date, and almost nobody has permissions. Somewhere buried there is instructions to ping the mailing list and ask for permissions, and rarely it happens, but come on. I think using github wiki functionality would allow it to stay up to date better? |
Robert Muir (@rmuir) (migrated from JIRA) another idea, add a simple "fork me on github" to the website. Just look at our website, getting to the sources is not the easiest task. I have to evaluate a lot of open-source software myself, and always appreciate the quick link to the sources, let's not make this difficult. |
Robert Muir (@rmuir) (migrated from JIRA) Believe it or not, there's actually no "link" to the source code anywhere, only commandline instructions to run |
Dawid Weiss (@dweiss) (migrated from JIRA) ("with progress"... yeah, that's why #10910 is still open :) ) |
Robert Muir (@rmuir) (migrated from JIRA) It was entirely too difficult to find the issue! I knew it had "perfection" in the name too!!!! |
Tomoko Uchida (@mocobeta) (migrated from JIRA)
Yes I think it's an obstacle to contributing (in this GitHub era) when developers already have a working patch... As far as I know, the only technical reason to ask contributors to open a JIRA issue is that our CHANGES (or |
Tomoko Uchida (@mocobeta) (migrated from JIRA) I just found that it looks like
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Michael McCandless (@mikemccand) (migrated from JIRA) +1 to work out a migration plan to switch to GitHub issues. Can we preserve our whole history here? The most compelling reason to me is that our Jira instance still does not (cannot?) support Markdown. Maybe all these comments where we all optimistically tried to use Markdown will then render correctly on migration to GitHub issues!! I even see attempted Markdown in our CHANGES.txt, but does our Hmm then I will have to figure out how to migrate https://jirasearch.mikemccandless.com near-real-time indexing onto GitHub issues too! |
Michael McCandless (@mikemccand) (migrated from JIRA) Also, I love this new "Achieve XYZ perfection (with progress)" template ;) |
Tomoko Uchida (@mocobeta) (migrated from JIRA) I opened #11581 and a PR for it. Can you please take a look? For the future, we could consider replacing Jira with Github issue - I'm not against it and it may be technically possible, I think we'd need some additional discussion (also with ASF, maybe?) for the big transition. |
Robert Muir (@rmuir) (migrated from JIRA) IMO it just creates friction. having to sign-up for an account on anything is a big hurdle IMO. Signing up for JIRA is something i haven't done in forever, so I've got a screenshot of what it looks like. You have to solve CAPTCHA, etc: |
Tomoko Uchida (@mocobeta) (migrated from JIRA) I forgot the sign-up procedure of Jira, but generally agree with it's cumbersome and I don't like CAPTCHA too :) |
Tomoko Uchida (@mocobeta) (migrated from JIRA) I found GitHub issue is enabled on Apache Airflow and BookKeeper (and a few more) repositories, and they already use it: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/issues So I see no (technical) reason why we can't move to GitHub issues from Jira, although I'm not sure how to smoothly migrate/operate it. Maybe, we should look for an INFRA Jira... |
Tomoko Uchida (@mocobeta) (migrated from JIRA) Ok, I don't know how difficult it is though, opened an issue: #11593. |
Inspired by Dawid's build issue which has worked out for us: #10910
He hasn't even linked 10% of the issues/subtasks involved in that work either, but we know.
I think we need a similar approach for the contribution workflow. There has been some major improvements recently, a couple that come to mind:
But there is more to do in my opinion, here is 3 ideas:
So let's have an issue to improve this area.
Migrated from LUCENE-10543 by Robert Muir (@rmuir), updated May 04 2022
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